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Turgon词根含义演变 (减速慢行)

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记录一下Turgon名字含义,感谢Eldamo。

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LT1A:(HoME1) Book of Lost Tales Part One Appendix

Ety:(HoME5) Etymologies

PE:Parma Eldalamberon

PM:(HoME12) Peoples of Middle-Earth

SA:Silmarillion Appendix

SI:Silmarillion Index ofNames

 

Gnomish

turu 'be stronge' ✧LT1A/Meril-i-Turinqi

tur- 'can, to have power to' ✧LT1A/Meril-i-Turinqi

tûr 'king' ✧LT1A/Meril-i-Turinqi

 

Early Noldorin

Turgon 'firece k[ing]' ✧PE13/154

 

N. tûrᴹQ. tūrē 'mastery,victory' ✧ Ety/TUR

ᴹQ. TUR- power, control, mastery, victory.✧ Ety/TUR

to wield,control, govern ✧ Ety/TUR

-gon:( suffixal form of "-caun" ) valour✧ Ety/KAN

 

Quenya

Sarafinwë (The father name, meaning unknown)

Turondo:Lord of Stone ✧ PE17/112

-gorn: 'dreaded, revered' ✧ PE17/113

Turgon:Ruling Lord ✧ PE17/113

Turukano,Tur(u)gon, KAN-{govern, manage} 'lead'. kano, leader.✧ PE17/113

Tur, power. verb turu-, master, defeat have victory over.Turukondo, victory prince.✧ PE17/113

TUR 'dominate, master, conquer, power '; TUR-'strong, mighty in power '.✧PE17/188

kano 'Commander'✧ PM/345

Turukano'Master-shout'✧ PM/345

kānō 'leader, ruler; crier, herald' ✧ PM/352

Turgon, Called the Wise; the second son of Fingolfin ✧SI/Turgon

tur  'power, mastery' in Turambar, Turgon, Túrin, Fëanturi,Tar-'Minyatur. ✧ SA/tur

 

简而言之:

Turgon, called the Wise, AKA "Ruling Lord", "Victory Commander", (lit.) "Master Shout"

 

杂谈:

从版本学的角度讨论Turgon名字含义还比较好理解。但只看单线历史的话,如果Turukano是Fingolfin给Turgon的父名,那么问题来了:

1.绝大多数父名是对个人形貌、性格特征的描述,唯独Turukano描述的是社会身份,其远见性不像父名(它曾是Turgon的Title,就像Felagund是Finrod的Title之一。假如Finarfin给儿子起名“凿洞者”,就会显得有些……怪异)。

2.双树纪1300年,Melkor还在服刑,维林诺一片祥和,连刀剑都还没被发明,而前缀turu-"master, defeat have victory over"充满侵略性,这些概念从何而来?

(也许是Anaire的预见力给了个turu,然后Fingolfin加上kano,为什么没有母名,因为Turukano既是父名又是母名)

Turgon曾经的父名是Sarafinwe,后来演化成Arafinwe给了Finarfin,而Ingoldo曾经是Fingolfin的昆雅名(Fin-Golfin Ingoldo,共享-ngol词缀),后来成了Finarfin和Finrod的母名(我曾经是你爸.jpg

没想到查个词源都能磕到。另外,在PE17/Turond-词条里,第一个出现的词是,Felagund!

Felagund is a Beorian name. Turukunda. Fini-gorna. Noro-finwe.✧ PE17/112

(后面三个能看出来与Turgon,Fingon,Nolofinwe有关)

Felagund中的-gund与-gon经常是同一含义在不同语言下的两种形态,PE里是Beorian,钻和HoME里是矮人语。

Turond< Turukndo. KON-'lord'. Cf. Beor[ian] gundu.✧ PE17/113

But it was often by others Eldarized into Felagon, as if it had the same ending(*-kano) as in Fingon, Turgon. ✧PM/352

Lord of Cave,Lord of Stone,好对仗。

意外emo到人皇,在讨论-gorn的含义时,提到Aragorn:

gorn(-ngorn) is from NGOR 'dread' --used in sense of reverence, majesty --adjective form *ngorna, dreaded, revered, non form *ngorme, dread, reverence, awe. So Ara(n)gorn ='revered king.' ✧ PE17/113

人皇!

还有托老的神秘现场:

Golfin.{Gol}Golothir Turgond. {GolFingoldo} Fin...

ArgondTur(u)gond. Finwion Arakondo. Finwe-kondo, Turukondo. Finugon,Turugond. Finucano, Turu ... Finugon, Turugon.

{Argon} Fin-Argon.Turugon. Fin-Argon Turgon. Fin-Golfin.

Fin-GolfinIngoldo.Fin-Argon. Fin-Goldor.

{condo.} cano. canya, canyane. canta-, ca...canya. canune.

kondo, princemleaer. KON, to lead.

✧ PE17/113

(第一遍读的时候仿佛在看什么贵乱文,有个Turgon(d),开始Fin...突然(F)Ingoldo,带来了-gond,Argon(d)也不知道为什么加入了队列,Fin(u)gon紧随其后,语言开始错乱,开始胡**换前后缀,欲言又止,突然Fingolfin也来了,场面更加混乱AraTuruFinoFinGolfinGonKondoCanoGond……)

(所以这是在做什么……)

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